Nqaij qaib ua teb

Pheasant Farm

Kab noog, xws li cov pheasants, peb siv los saib hauv zoos, tab sis cov noog no tuaj yeem ua tau bred hauv lawv qhov chaw. Nyob rau hauv qee qhov kev mob ntawm kev kho, qhov ua tau zoo ntawm cov ntaub ntawv no yog siab heev (profitability ntawm qhov kev txiav txim ntawm 50%).

Qhov zoo ntawm yug me nyuam pheasants

  1. Nyob rau hauv cov ntaub ntawv no, tsis yog li ntau tus neeg sib tw.
  2. Pheasant qe yog kim, tab sis lawv muaj cov neeg muas zaub tsis tu ncua.
  3. Koj tuaj yeem muag cov qe ntawm ob hom: fertilized thiab unfertilized. Lub tom kawg yuav yog nyob rau hauv tus nqi ntawm cov tswv lag luam exquisite delicacies.
  4. Tus nqi kuj muaj xws li nqaij qaib nqaij. Lawv yeej nyiam cov khw muag khoom noj khoom haus thiab cov khw muag khoom noj.
  5. Ib tug noog nyob ib txwm yog ib qho tsim nyog rau zoos, yos hav zoov, cov neeg muag khoom thiab cov neeg nyiam.

Cov pheasants zoo li cas nyob hauv tsev

Qhov nrov tshaj plaws ntawm pheasants rau yug me nyuam:

  1. Steppe Tua Tsiaj. Nyob rau hauv nws ib puag ncig ntuj, nws nyob rau hauv hav zoov nyob rau hauv lub sawv, yog resistant rau ailments thiab kub hloov, unpretentious nyob rau hauv cov zaub mov. Differs nyob rau hauv high qe qhuav. Tus neeg laus hnyav 1.7-2 kg.
  2. Noob nom noob tswv. Tuaj rau peb ntawm cov highlands ntawm Tuam Tshoj. Qhov ntev ntawm tus txiv neej (nrog rau Tail) yog mus txog rau 210 cm, cov pojniam nce mus txog 75 cm Qhov hnyav ntawm tus txiv neej yog 1.5 kg, tus poj niam yog 1 kg. Tus poj niam lays ntawm 7 mus rau 14 qe.
  3. Golden. Kuj los ntawm Suav teb. Nws yog ib tug zoo nkauj yug, yog li ntawd nws tsis muaj peev xwm yuav diluted rau nqaij. Hnyav noog 1-2 kg. pojniam pw txog 12 qe.
  4. Ntses pob zeb. Lwm qhua los ntawm Tuam Tshoj. Nyob rau hauv daim ntawv no, muaj cov cwj pwm txawv hauv kev ua plees ua ywj siab: Cov txiv neej nyob rau sab qaum ntawm lub cev yog dawb, nyob rau sab qis dub, cov poj niam yog cov txiv ntseej-xim daj uas muaj gray qauv saum toj no, thiab hauv qab yog dawb nrog tsaus nti. Lawv cov nqaij tseem ceeb heev, thiab feathers yog siv los tsim cov tsiaj txhu thiab khoom noj khoom haus. Tus poj niam nqa 6-15 paj yeeb qe.
Koj puas paub? Cov neeg Greek txheej thaum ub ntseeg tias thawj thawj zaug pom Jason hauv nws txoj kev taug mus rau Golden Golden.

Kev kho ntawm daim ntawv ceeb toom

Pheasants zoo tshaj plaws nyob rau hauv tawb, raws li lawv yog cov noog qus thiab muaj peev xwm ruaj ntseg tawm hauv ib ncig ntawm lub paddock. Aviary yuav muab cov noog coj lub sijhawm kom muaj kev ywj pheej ywj siab, tab sis yuav tsis pub ya. Yuav ua kom cov kab txawv txawv zoo, cov ntsiab lus hauv qab no yuav tsum raug muab suav ua ntej thaum npaj nws lub tsev:

  1. Qhov ntau thiab tsawg ntawm daim npav yuav tsum muab xam raws li ib tus neeg xav tau txog 2 square metres ntawm qhov chaw. Nyob rau lub caij nplooj ntoos hlav, cheeb tsam no yuav tsum nce mus txog 12 square metres.
  2. Qhov loj ntawm lub qauv kuj yog nyob ntawm seb hom pheasants koj npaj yuav yug thiab rau dab tsi lub hom phiaj. Cov neeg uas noj zaub mov tuaj yeem nyob rau hauv cov pob tawb me me los yog cov pob tawb, thiab cov neeg uas tau coj mus yos hav zoov yuav tsum muaj chaw seem kawm kom paub yuav ua li cas ya.
  3. Ib txhia pheasants yog cov monogamous, lwm tus yog polygamous. Qhov no kuj yuav tsum tau xav txog thaum tsim ib qho aviary. Thawj zaug yuav tsum tau khom tsuas khub, nyob rau hauv cov poj niam muaj plaub tug pojniam ib tug txiv neej.
  4. Qe qe nyias muaj nyias hom sib txawv: ib txhia nyiam nkaum hauv cov nyom, lwm tus hauv hav zoov, thiab lwm cov neeg nyob hauv cov ntoo. Muab cov cuab yeej no nws yog ib qhov tsim nyog los nruab rau sab hauv ntawm lub enclosure.Feem ntau pheasants nteg qe txoj cai rau hauv av.
  5. Qhov tsim ntawm daim ntawv yuav tsum tau yooj yim rau tus neeg ua teb, vim pojniam nyiam pw qe nyob rau ntau qhov chaw, yog li ntawd tus breeder yuav tsum tau nrhiav rau lawv. Nws yog qhov zoo tshaj kom faib lub cua daj qhib rau ob ntu: ib chav pw tsaug zog (tsaus chav), thiab lwm tus yog ib qho kev taug kev, uas cov noog yuav tau noj.
  6. Thaum tsim lub tshuab qhib dav hlau, nws yog qhov zoo tshaj plaws los siv cov hlau lossis ntoo (rau thav duab) thiab daim phiaj xim daj. Qhov loj ntawm cov kab sib txawv ntawm lub hlwb yuav tsum tsis pub ntau tshaj 1.5 * 1.15 cm - ib qho zoo sib xws yuav cia kom tsis txhob muaj neeg tua tsiaj (noog, nas thiab lwm cov me me me) nkag mus hauv cov av.
  7. Nyob hauv lub aviary yuav tsum muaj lub ru tsev thiaj li hais tias cov pheasants yuav tsis tawm nws. Nws yog ib lub tswv yim kom ua los ntawm cov khoom muag.
  8. Muab xam tus naj npawb ntawm cov chiv quav yuav tsum tau nqa tawm ntawm kev xam tias qhov tseeb ntawm tus neeg laus yuav tsum xav tau 20 los yog ntau tshaj ntawm qhov chaw pub rau noj, cov me nyuam hnub nyoog li ob lub hlis yuav tsum muaj li 10 centimeters.
  9. Nruab cov chiv yuav tsum nyob ntawm qhov nce, thiaj li ua kom yooj yim dua. Nws kuj yog ib qho tseem ceeb kom ntim khoom noj nrog ib ntu ntawm ib leeg, tshwj xeeb tshaj yog tias muaj ntau pheasants nyob rau hauv aviary - ces cov noog yuav tsis raug thawb thaum noj mov.
  10. Cov haus cawv yog qhov zoo tshaj plaws los xaiv qhov yuav rov qab - nws yog ib qho mob siab, nws ntim rau ntawm ib lub tais uas muaj grooves, nyob rau sab saum toj uas txuas nrog rau kev sib txuas kom yooj yim. Tus naj npawb thiab qhov loj ntawm cov neeg haus dej haus tau muab xam rau hauv qhov nyiaj watering pem hauv ntej. Rau cov neeg laus cov noog, nws tsis yog tsawg tshaj li 20 cm ntawm ib tug beak, rau me nyaum qaib uas tseem tsis tau ib lub hlis - tsawg kawg 7 cm, 2-2.5 lub hlis - yam tsawg 10 cm.
Pheasant enclosure: video

Kev nkag tau rau pasture

Tuaj tom tshav zaub yuav nyob ze ntawm aviary lossis ntawm nws thaj chaw. Ntawm no, cov nroj tsuag uas tsim ib qho zoo ntxoov ntxoo yuav tsum loj hlob; koj tuaj yeem cog qoob loo, plantain, coltsfoot, nyom. Nyob rau hauv ib ncig ntawm pasture yuav tsum tau haus dej thiab feeders, uas yuav tsum tau txuas mus rau lub laj kab.

Nws tseem ceeb heev! Cov pub thiab dej haus yuav tsum tau ntim kom tus neeg ua liaj ua teb tuaj xyuas hauv cov tshav zaub me ntsis li tsawg tau.

Kev kho mob

Nyob hauv aviary, koj yuav tsum ua ntu zus: tshem cov khib nyiab thiab ntub, ntxuav thiab tua kab mob cov zaub mov thiab dej ntim. Yog tias koj tsis siv cov kev ntsuas no, yuav ua rau ticks thiab lwm cov cab cab hauv pheasants siab. Kev tu yog nqa tawm thaum nws pom tias cov khoom noj khoom tawg yog nyob ze ntawm cov kev faib zaub mov, cov dej thiab cov av uas tsim tau rau hauv khib nyiab. Nws yog ib lub tswv yim kom ntxuav cov chiv thiab haus dej txhua txhua hnub ib hnub.

Xuab zeb thiab fodder grasses yog siv raws li chaw pw. Cov xuab zeb yog poured nyob rau hauv ib lub txheej ntawm 10-15 centimeters thiab yog them nrog nyom on to top thiaj li hais tias xuab zeb yog tsis pom. Hloov cov xuab zeb uas ua cov pa phem.

Cov cai pub noj

Pheasant, zoo li lwm cov qaib zoo li, yog cov zaub mov hauv cov zaub mov, tab sis voracious heev. Lub ntsiab ntawm nws cov zaub mov tseem ceeb: barley, pob kws, cov nplej, ncuav mog qab zib. Cov dej kub hnyav, nqaij thiab ntses pov tseg yuav ntxiv rau daim ntawv no. Cov noog tseem xav tau zaub thiab txiv hmab txiv ntoo: qos yaj ywm, pumpkins, cabbage, apples, carrots, beets, zucchini. Tsis txhob ua yam tsis muaj ntsuab: shchiritsa, quinoa, nettle, wood louse, ntsuab dos.

Koj tuaj yeem npaj cov ntub zom ntub los ntawm cov zaub ntsuab thiab zaub los ntawm kev ntxiv roj ntses thiab pob txha noj mov. Ib tug neeg laus noog xav tau 80-100 gram ntawm tej khoom noj ib hnub. Nws yog ib lub tswv yim kom muab cov hmoov sib tov sov. Yog tias koj tsis xav noj cov hmoov sib tov koj tus kheej, ces koj tuaj yeem noj cov pheasants nrog kev noj khoom noj. Haum rau cov neeg npaj rau broiler qaib.

Qhov kev noj haus ntawm cov tub ntxhais hluas tsim on ib tug sib tov ntawm nettle, alfalfa, pluas noj worms, boiled qe. Qhov chaw ntawm dej cia qaub mis.

Nws tseem ceeb heev! Haus dej yuav tsum txias. Nws yog hloov los ntawm 2-3 zaug ib hnub twg.
Nyob rau lub caij nplooj zeeg-lub caij ntuj no, muab cov noog ntxiv pabcuam (3 grams ib hnub rau ib tus neeg), nyob rau hauv lub luag haujlwm ntawm cov poov xab thiab roj ntses yuav siv tau. Koj yuav tsum tau nce lub txiaj ntsim ntawm cov nplej (txhua lub taub hau yuav tsum mus ntxiv los ntawm 5 gram ib hnub). Nws yog tseem ceeb los muab sunflower, pob kws, millet, dandelion, clover, roob tshauv. Nyob rau hauv lub caij ntuj no, pheasants tau hang cabbage

Tus nqi ntawm cov khoom noj uas tau sau rau saum toj no kwv yees. Txhua tus neeg ua liaj ua teb yuav tsum nrhiav kev noj cov khoom noj uas yuav tsum tau siv los ntawm nws cov plaub. Yog hais tias tus noog tsis noj lub cev, ces koj tuaj yeem txo nws me ntsis, tab sis nws tsis pom zoo rau overfeed.

Qhia koj tus kheej nrog cov ntiv tes nrov ntawm pheasants, ntau ntxiv nrog rau cov phaj phev ntau, pheasant ear, white pheasant, golden pheasant.
Pheasants muaj pub ib hnub ob zaug. Nyob rau hauv thaum sawv ntxov pub mis yuav tsum tau muab ntub mash, thiab thaum noj su - cereals. Nws yog tsis yooj yim sua kom muab tus noog spoiled grain.

Kev ntsuas khoom noj ntawm tus neeg laus pheasant yog muaj nyob rau hauv lub rooj.

Noj pab pawgTxhua hnub ration, g
lub caij ntuj nolub caij ntuj sov
feeb meej (pob kws, nplej, millet, thiab lwm yam)5045
muaj kua (carrots, qos yaj ywm, thiab lwm yam)1020
tsiaj (minced meat, tsev cheese, nqaij thiab pob txha noj, thiab lwm yam)69
vitamin (poov xab, ntses roj)32
pob zeb hauv av (txiv qaub, ntsev)33

Yuav ua li cas noj pheasants: video

Pheasant Egg Incubation

Pheasant pojniam tsis muaj lub ntsiab ntawm brooding. Tib tug neeg tuaj yeem nyob twj ywm rau hauv lub clutch, thiab tus so yuav tsis nco txog nws, yog li ntawd tus neeg ua liaj ua teb yuav tsum saib xyuas lawv cov xeeb ntxwv ntawm lawv tus kheej. Qhov no yuav tsum muaj kev sib hloov.

Pheasants nteg qe ntawm cov xim sib txawv: tsaus grey, grey, teeb grey, ntsuab grey, ntsuab, lub teeb ntsuab. Qhov siab tshaj plaws ntawm hatching nyob rau hauv lub teeb grey qe, yog li ntawd nws yog ntshaw kom xaiv lawv rau tsim kom loj hlob, thiab ntsuab tseem tsis tau them nqi rau.

Kawm yuav ua li cas xaiv, khw, disinfect, equip incubated qe.
Nws tseem yuav tsum tau sau tseg tias cov qe xaiv rau kev tsim kom kab tsim yuav tsum muaj lub plhaub plhaub, zoo ib yam thiab ntau ntau qhov loj heev; nws yog ib qho tsis xav ua kom sib sib zog nqus lossis tsaus, me me, nyias plhaub thiab dhau lub voj voog.

Koj kuj yuav tsum tau qev qe nrog ob lub nkaub, homogeneous sab hauv, nrog qe ntsaws rau lub plhaub - cov deviations yog hnov ​​thaum pom lub qe ntawm ovoskop. Pheasant Egg Incubation

Qhov tso yog zoo tshaj plaws nqa tawm nyob rau hauv incubators nrog ib tug tig mechanism thiaj li hais tias lub qe sov so evenly los ntawm tag nrho cov sab. Qhov ntsuas kub muaj li ntawm 38.3 ... +38.4 ° S, thiab cov av noo yog 54%.

Kawm seb yuav ua li cas ntes pheasants nrog koj tus kheej tes, yuav ua li cas yug lawv, yuav ua li cas rau ntawm tsom iav los ntawm pecking, yuav ua li cas thiab dab tsi pub, yuav ua li cas thiab dab tsi yuav kho li cas.
Thaum lub sij hawm tsim kom loj hlob, lub humidity yuav tsum tsis pub tshaj 54-60%. Tom qab 21 hnub, nws yuav tsum txo qhov kub kom +37.8 ° S, thiab nce cov av noo ntawm 20% - qhov no yuav pab tau cov me nyuam qaib tuaj rau lub teeb kom sai. Cov txheej txheem hatching yuav siv sij hawm 1-6 teev thiab cov me nyaum qaib yuav tsum nyob twj ywm hauv lub mos txwv rau ob peb teev kom txog thaum lawv qhuav thiab tsis hloov mus rau qhov chaw tshiab.

Cultivation ntawm pheasants nyob rau hauv incubators: video

Hluas Tshuag

Cov ziab qhuav thiab cov hluas tuaj yeem yog hloov hauv lub tawb los yog hauv cov seem hauv pem teb. Thaum cov ntsiab lus cellular hauv cov qauv ntawm 32 * 42 cm nrog rau qhov siab ntawm 21 cm yuav tsum muab tso tsis pub tshaj 20 lub taub hau. Nyob rau hauv xws li cov noog cages lawv khaws cia rau 2-4 hnub, thiab ces transplanted rau hauv hlwb ntawm 110 * 65 cm nrog ib tug qhov siab ntawm 35 cm Yog li ntawd lawv khaws cia txog li 10-12 hnub thiab pauv mus rau enclosures-acclimatizers.

Tawb tau them nrog sacking thiab ntsia hauv chav tsev rhuab nrog cua, feeders thiab drinkers muab ntsia rau hauv lawv. Thawj peb hnub qhov ntsuas kub yog tswj ntawm +28 degrees, ces txo qis rau +20 - nyob rau hauv xws li tej yam kev mob, tus me nyaum loj hlob mus rau 6 lub hlis.

Koj puas paub? Thaum xaus ntawm lub xyoo pua 16th, pheasant yug me nyuam rais los dav dav hauv teb chaws Aas Kiv, thiab cov noog tau tsa ceg tsis yog nyob hauv cov av tua tsiaj xwb, tab sis kuj yog rau cov hom phiaj zoo nkauj.

Yog hais tias lub cultivation sab nraum zoov, ces nyob rau hauv seem rau ib square meter muaj peev xwm muaj 20-25 hau, thiab ib pawg yuav tsum tsis muaj ntau tshaj 500 cov neeg. Hauv pem teb yog hlua khib nyiab. Nyob rau hauv qab ntawm ntu yuav tsum tsis tu ncua, yog li ntawd cov tub ntxhais hluas tsis tau qis los ntawm.

Thawj peb lub lis piam yuav tsum tau muaj cua sov: nyob rau hauv tshav kub, qhov ntsuas kub yuav tsum yog + 32 ... + 34 ° C, sab hauv tsev - 28 ° C hauv thawj lub lim tiam, +25 ° C - ob, +23 ° C - hauv peb thiab + 22 ° C - hauv plaub.

Loj hlob pheasants: video

Qhov zoo tshaj plaws ua liaj ua teb rau yug me nyuam pheasants

Cov Kab Liaj Teb Hauv Xeev:

  1. Pheasant ua liaj ua teb. Podmoskovnaya ua liaj ua teb koom rau hauv kev yug me nyuam ntawm pheasants rau muag thiab rau kev yos hav zoov. Kuj muaj kev qhia txog kev ncig ntawm nws thaj chaw. Nyob rau hauv lub zos Alferov Chekhov koog tsev kawm ntawv, cheeb tsam Moscow.
  2. "Lavxias teb sab Compound". Nyob hauv thaj av Sverdlovsk hauv hav zoov tawm ntawm txoj kev. Koom rau hauv kev yug me nyuam ntawm cov noog muag. Nws npaj kev mus ncig ntawm nws thaj chaw. Chaw nyob: Sverdlovsk cheeb tsam, 25 km raws Novomoskovskiy ib ntsuj lus, 800 meters los ntawm Streletsky Dvor complex.
  3. Kev ua liaj ua teb ntawm pheasants thiab guinea fowls. Nce thiab muag ib tug noog nyob. Muab cov neeg tuaj yeem nrog yug me nyuam rau kev tsim kom loj hlob, cov tsiaj me thiab cov laus. Nyob hauv nrog. Yamnoye, Ramonsky District, Voronezh Thaj Chaw.

Kawm yuav ua li cas txiav pheasant fillets, pheasant nqaij yog pab, txawm hais tias koj tuaj yeem noj cov qe pheasant.

Nyob rau hauv Ukraine, muaj ntau heev ob peb loj ua liaj ua teb rau yug me nyuam pheasants. Feem ntau qhov nquag nquag yog bred hauv kev yos hav zoov thiab cov chaw ua qoob yau uas tsis txawm muaj lawv qhov chaw:

  1. Kev Ua Liaj Ua Tsev Ua Si. Tsim muaj nyob rau hauv 2004 hauv ib tsev neeg. Tam sim no nws muab cov neeg tau txais kev pab khoom noj khoom haus zoo thiab nyob poultry zom rau tej khoom noj khoom haus, tsis muaj tshuaj tua kab mob thiab lwm yam khoom siv. Lub tuam txhab nyob rau hauv Kiev ntawm 26-B Verkhovna Rada Boulevard, qhov ntau lawm nws yog nyob rau hauv lub nroog ntawm Khristinovka, Cherkasy cheeb tsam. Koom nyob rau hauv lub delivery ntawm cov khoom thoob plaws hauv Ukraine.
  2. "Kev Yos Hav Zoov". Loj hlob nqaij qaib rau yug me nyuam, rau kev yos hav zoov thiab cov khw nojmov. Pheasants loj hlob nyob rau hauv cov tsiaj qus mob thiab tsuas noj rau cov khoom noj tsis muaj additives thiab stimulants loj hlob. Cov ua liaj ua teb yog nyob rau ntawm txoj kev Pervomayskaya, 2B nrog. Chupyra Belotserkovsky koog tsev kawm ntawv ntawm cheeb tsam Kiev.
Pheasants nyob rau hauv lub Urals: video Nyob rau hauv nteg qe phais neeg, lub luag haujlwm, attentiveness thiab scrupulousness yog xav tau. Cov noog no yeej saib lawv qhov chaw thiab tsis pub lub zej zog ntawm lwm cov noog, lawv xav tau chaw nyob thiab muaj kev thaj yeeb. Thaum ua raws li cov cai no, nrog rau kev xav txog kev noj haus, koj yuav muaj peev xwm cog qoob loo zoo.

Sau qoob rau pheasants rau kev yos hav zoov: xyuas

Tsis ntev los no, qhov kev yos hav zoov rau cov pheasants yog qhov tshwm sim ntau dua. Cov neeg zoo uas muaj kev zoo siab ntawm pheacant hunting yog npaj txhij los ua kom tau nyiaj ntau heev rau qhov kev lom zem no ($ 20- $ 60 rau ib tus neeg tua). Lawm, txhua leej txhua tus yog ntau txaus siab koom nrog hauv kev lag luam ua lag luam. Tab sis, tis ntawm qhov no, qhov kev sib tw ua lag luam no tseem tsis tau nyuab heev, uas yog vim li cas thiaj li pib ua lag luam pheasant.

Rau kev nteg qe phais tau tom tsev yuav tsum muaj ib thaj av dawb, qhov nqi xauj tsev ntau heev (zoo, yog tias koj twb muaj ib qho). Cov nyiaj siv ntawm kev yuav khoom ntawm lub hlwb yuav tsuas yog ib feem me me ntawm cov nqi tag nrho. Fazanyi enclosures yuav tsum yog dav li sai tau vim cov noog yuav tsum ya. Piv txwv, kom siv tau peb puas square metres ntawm daim av nrog pheasant enclosures yuav raug nqi koj li 2.5 tis. $. Cov nqi no yuav them rau lub caij nyoog (ntawm chav kawm, nrog kev tshaj tawm zoo ntawm koj lub tuam txhab), txij li tshaj li 400 noog yuav tsum khaws cia rau hauv ib qho aviary. Hmoov zoo rau koj hauv qhov teeb meem no!

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Kuv xav tias nws tsis tsim nyog li yog sharply mus rau yug me nyuam ntawm pheasant. Ntau qhov chaw nyob qhov twg nws, loj hlob txog li 2 lub hlis nyob rau hauv lub ua liaj ua teb, raug tso tawm mus rau hauv qhov. Thiab qhov twg mob heev tshaj qhov no? Nws tus kheej, raws li ib txoj cai, reproduces tsis zoo nyob rau hauv lub overwhelming ib ncig ntawm Ukraine. Cov cheeb tsam uas qhov xwm txheej tau zoo tshaj plaws rau kev ywj pheej ywj pheej yog qhov tsawg dhau los ua kom cov tub rog tuaj yeem pab dawb. Kuv tsis xav txog qhov teeb meem thaum ib lub hom phiaj cuam tshuam los ntawm tus xub, ib qho ruam, txawm tias kuv paub tias nws ua li. Tib Donetsk cheeb tsam, qhov twg nws zoo li yuav nws, tsis ua tsis muaj txhua xyoo tso tawm ntawm cov tub ntxhais hluas Tshuag los ntawm teb. Yuav ua li cas yuav tsum Kiev, piv txwv li, neeg tua tsiaj, yog hais tias nws tsis nyob rau hauv qhov?
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